Informal RAID 2020 meeting notes
Held at the Dalby QLD Cit-In 2018.
Chaired by Chis Bennet-RAID Leader 2020
Notes taken by Elizabeth Willison
David Gries – technical support
Helen Cross – possible role with organising shirts etc
Bernie – Survey assistance/technical support
Lidy Meier – graphic designer. Possibly design logo, Edit RAID booklet
Uschi & Axel – from USA
RAID 2020 Requires a Treasurer.
Website: old website not working. Possibly can be resurrected. John from QLD may be able to do this. Ted Cross from 123 ignition happy to finance website – up to $300.
Breaks: max 2 days only. The 1 week break
lost momentum for the RAID 2016.
Notes: need to be more detailed. IE what is available at the local shops/ Servo. Points of interest. Number of km’s till next fuel place. Requirements for extra fuel etc.
Bush Camps: more camps with less catered meals
Numbers: Possibly limit to 50 cars max
Nightly meetings when all together as done by Steve Weddel in earlier RAIDS. Each day or at least 2nd daily. Leader leads and talks.
Finance: no payments to individuals, tail end Charlie team. (Tec team).
Budget to cover campsites, permits etc. ie costs only.
Tony discussed concern re insurance issue. if Raid pays people/organisers or Tec crew on RAID it is no longer voluntary and therefore need insurances for the RAID.
Ted Cross discussed distribution of funds that occurred at the end of RAID 2016. Not clearly negotiated. Possibly a failure of the committee to allow the distribution that occurred.
Ralph confirmed that RAID has always been run by volunteers. No pay. No liability. Suggested budget and 10% for misadventure. Monies left over for RFDS. Previous Raids paid tec team extra fuel costs only. – to be confirmed.
Camp sites: enough space for numbers – good position.
Stephan: Voiced concern about vehicles being fit for RAID. Discussion followed. No clear solution how to enforce or should we. Ensure information on website about minimum expectations of vehicle preparedness to complete the RAID. Each person is personally responsible for their own vehicle and their actions. Design max weight for a standard 2CV is 930kg including people.
Timing of RAID: ? March or August. Issue with no campfires in March. Want information out early.
Stephan raised issue about speed and fast going first. Discussion occurred. Suggestion that drivers could rate self as slow, med, fast drivers. Determined that need to drive for road and vehicle conditions . This will vary for each vehicle.
Distances travelled each day: maybe max of 300km/ day. Really determined by time taken to travel the road, not distance. Max of 5 hours driving in any day.
Duration: 4 weeks
Current suggested route: West to east crossing
Include wave rock, Laverton, Anne Beadell Highway, Coober Pedy, William Creek, Maree, Birdsville, ? Longreach, ? Where to the East coast, ? Coffs Harbour / Bellingen.
Survey runs will assist with determining route.
Suggestion that an alternative to the Birdsville may be needed if it is impassable at RAID time.
Ted noted that overseas drivers and their vehicles leave and arrive from certain cities in Australia. Coffs Harbour is 1/2 way between Brisbane and Sydney. A days drive!
ACE WA has volunteered to do a survey run of the West side – the Anne Beadell Hway. This will occur from August 1st 2018. Ralph explained the road conditions on the Anne Beadell are sand dunes and narrow. CB communication is a must. Anticipate 4 wheel drive vehicles will need to be spread through the group not just at the back. Often the road is difficult to overtake and off road is not an option. Will need low tyre pressures to cope with sand.
The Survey run would include gathering info on what is available at shops. Types of fuel avail. Points of interest. Camping places. GPS readings etc.
It was noted that fuel, Water, food added to the weight in the vehicle and therefore days without access to refills would impact the total weight carried in the vehicles. Take this into consideration with number of days camping across the Anne Beadell. Ralph invited all those that wished to join the survey run.
Helen Cross noted she still has the email addresses of those on the previous RAID and could use this to inform them of the 2020 RAID. Ensure any emails sent utilise BCC to maintain confidentiality in emails.
Joe requested that we try not to double back on roads. Ensure we gather the appropriate permits.
Desire to have one point of contact. Hopefully the website.
Meeting ended. Hopefully we will hear from Chris re the website and then from Ralph re the survey run.
ACE Club WA.